The CMMG Guard and Banshee also use a true delayed blowback. Generally speaking I fail to see the point in a semi-auto subgun. Constructed using high performance aluminum and steel materials with premium hard coat anodized nitride nickel boron surface treatments throughout, the SMG .45 is built to last. Mine (SN: 000118) continues to run great. ICA5U5B16. He regrets the purchase. You are using an out of date browser. LWRC says they've resolved the issues and from my testing yesterday, it appears they are correct. Lwrc never responded to my design flaw email or at least not yet. Try finding B&T APC 45 (blow back) mags for less than $90. The main reason, I gather, APC45 is still a blowback. Help Support the site and gain access to the Feed, see fewer ads, and get a new icon under your name showing you're a supporter! I hope that LWRC gets the kinks ironed out expeditiously. The Rossi 92: A Firearm That Delivers Both Quality and Value, Sig Sauer 716 Tread 762 Nato 16" Barrel 308 AR-10 R716I-16B-TRD, CZ SCORPION Evo Pistol 9mm OD Green 91355, Smith & Wesson M&P Shield 2.0 9mm NTS No Thumb Safety 11808, MPA Pistol 9mm 6" Threaded Barrel Black Masterpiece Arms 30T, Radical Firearms RF00154 FP10.5-300HBAR-10RPR AR Pistol .300 AAC 10.5" 20-RD, Unique Ultralight-15 223 Wylde 16" Barrel AR15 HEXRIFLE. I asked, but the armorer is not saying anything. Report a problem. For 3k price, I will go for a top of the line Wilson Combat AR pistol that takes glock mag AND with the rest of the money get a Glock 19 that also takes Glock mag. Well, probably not near you, but it is just a click away here at GUNPRIME. Found a Kriss Vector in .45 for a third of the price that shot a much tighter group. HK bUMP LWRC SMG-45 Pistol. I saw one of these on a tv gun show last week and started looking them up for extra info. Well, probably not near you, but it is just a click away here at GUNPRIME. John 15:13 - "Greater love hath no man than this, that a man lay down his life for his friends.". You must log in or register to reply here. If you see one in a gun store all the people my age and below want to marvel at it, play with it and a bunch of them end up muzzling people with it. There are plenty of awesome PCC options on the market at 2/3 1/3 of that. Yet, it still fired when the time came. Having fired the Vector (in .45) and the MP5K both with the giggle switch installed, Im partial to the Vector. It does seem like they refined it and made it more custom, I was thinking it would have a standard AR charging handle and be blow back, basically just an AR45. It has been operating flawlessly right out of the gate and seems to eat anything from regular target rounds to my duty carry +P rounds consistently without any issues. And yeah, I know the APC 45 pro will be close in price. I guess Im old fashioned. Last I was told engineering team is working on solutions. You should have no problem finding one." I feel for the guys that are struggling with accuracy issues, but I'm not one of them. LWRC SMG45 apparently has major accuracy issues tacarl2808 Jul 28, 2020 1 2 3 Next tacarl2808 Frontiersman 80 0 Jul 28, 2020 #1 Garand Thumb posted a review showing 8 inch groups at 17 yards, while also shooting inch groups with other PCC's at the same distance. Final verdict: Because of its construction, the SilencerCo Omega 45K is a great suppressor for either PCCs or handguns. The gun will not group better than 6 to 8 inch groups at 25yrds. The only thing I didnt really like on the full auto one I got to play with were the separate safety and fire rate controls. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. It comes with two US-made UMP magazines that can easily be found for stockpiling. And the former is accomplished by other PCCs half the price. Easy take down and assembly. Free Weapon Pack for FiveM. I could go on and on with examples like thatcars, A/V equipment, etc. LWRC International SMG 45 ACP 25 Round Capacity SMGPB45B8S - $2899 LWRC's ingenuity has produced yet another awesome platform in a caliber that you have to love. That is sweet, but that price tag Wow, kinda surprised you actually got one, let alone two. Pasted as rich text. Rapid Fire. I have been thinking about one of these or the B & T apc 45 but both seem to have issues. The SMG-45 was released at the end of 2019 but at SHOT 2020 LWRC had more to say about the platform. I elected to take the suppressor off and fine tune the zero. I once again was driving holes in a 1inch group from a standing position at 25 yards. DSG got three of them in, but I was already on the list for one. If you don't have an optic yet, then no worries it ships with robust Magpul MBUS PRO backup iron sights that won't fail you when it counts. Cookie Notice $ 2,499.00 For sale is a LWRC SMG-45 semi-automatic pistol in .45 ACP. So I can understand that. All Rights Reserved. LWRL04-0038C01. LWRC SMG 45 for sale. Been following it since it was announced. All 4 feed perfectly in this gun. It shot a shotgun pattern group at close distances. The LWRC SMG-45 Crown is a Submachine Gun. A tubular folding stock graces the rear of the SBR version. I was pretty interested in this gun ever since they announced it. Muzzle is threaded. The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. By popular demand, LWRC confirmed that they are working on a 9x19mm version of the SMG-45, but did not confirm a release date. All the bullets went in the same tight group. Designed on our proprietary Short Recoil/Delayed Blowback operating system the new SMG is lightweight - 5.9 lbs and compact folding to a mere 15.3". Yeah, but what kinda short-sighted clown specs a new SMG in .45 ACP at the first offering? a unique delayed blowback mechanism. I think that they look cool, but Im just not really seeing the utility in it. and they will not be the last. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Hopefully you are using the piston booster. Typical. Con's a little pricey, early jams until mags loosened up, first few disassembles and reassembles were frustrating. Sure. Took the mags apart and put a light CLP coat on the inside to make the follower slide smoothly. A forum community dedicated to 1911 firearm owners and enthusiasts. Should I buy one and hope for the best . You will receive a link to create a new password via email. The accuracy and the butt stock being set down slightly are the only things he disliked from the whole package . I have put 700+ rnds through it. Um nope. I think Vectors are completely ridiculous and pointless to everyone except for as a curiosity. Not going to happen. There are none to be found, not even on gunbroker. Wife really enjoyed shooting which she is does not like shooting my .45 handguns for size and stability. Cosmohumanist Friends, a major seller in AZ appears to be liquidating 10.5" DIs for a huge discount. 8 inch " barrel bunker hill, wv 25413: used: 7/6/2022.45 acp lwrc smg-45 pistol with sb brace brand new smg45 Reply More posts from r/LWRC. I looked into this too, BTDT. I keep coming back to look at that picture. ALL of them were having stove pipe issues. Curious what Lwrc says, Just shot mine at 15 yards off a bag on a bench seated. No buffer tube silliness to try and work around, so the folded brace or stock actually drops the footprint to something vehicle or backpack worthy. By If your the person who want suppressors on everything, then 45 ACP and 300 AAC are your favorite choices. I started trying to zero it at 25m with the suppressor but couldn't get all the hits on the 1/2 size silhouette so I moved the target to 20m. I admit it. Important information regarding ammo orders, Important information regarding pistol braces, The Ultimate Guide to 5.7x28mm Ammunition Pistols and Rifles [2023], The Ultimate Guide to 5.7x28mm Ammunition Pistols and Rifles, The Ultimate Guide To Pistol Caliber Carbines (PCCs) & Submachine Guns (SMGs), The Ultimate Buyer's Guide to Bullpup Rifles & Shotguns for [2023], AR10 Ultimate Guide: The Definitive Guide to the Best AR10s, AR10 Parts, and AR10 Accessories [2023]. Thread starter Dschapp44; Start date Oct 24, 2019; Forums. Ill only buy delayed blow back. I spoke with a rep from LWRC probably around June or July and he said the initial feeding problems was a magazine issue and that they have fixed the accuracy/flyer issue. .45ACP in nearly all but the very lightest bullet weights is subsonic, relatively low pressure, and has that cavernous barrel inside diameter to further dissipate gas volume. Same thing with the Scorpion EVO pistols. This in vogue offering from LWRC can be easily understood considering the recent uptick in pistol caliber carbines (PCC), but what makes this product different than other offerings? I like wired operating systems. It may not display this or other websites correctly. I'd pass. That's because of its simple design: A blowback semi-automatic with few sturdy parts. The LWRC SMG-45 is a unique Submachine Gun that fires a larger .45 caliber cartridge, similar to its predecessor, the H&K UMP. I hope it will decrease the shot groups from spreading so bad. Serial number- 4AM00280. Just read some reviews on the B&T and none were flattering. April 29, 2019 at 21:58 Full Member. I was going to convert to SBR but the SB brace and the smooth operation has me rethinking to keep as pistol config for carry. The result is a. Is it possible you have the barrel screw too loose, or too tight? I have fed it everything from +P 185 gr, to handloaded 200 gr LSWC and 230 gr ball and it didn't skip a beat. I paired with a Holosun 507 series from Midway. There is still a market for it there and they can distinguish themselves a bit. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. Hell, it could have been a lengthy internal discussion, it could have been the head of the company likes 45 so much and scoffed at everyone else. I own lots of firearms Im way past necessity so looks are very important as bad as that sounds I still want it to work imagine that . Or it will group ok and them have 7-9 flyers . It looks nice indeed. Fantastic trigger. This baby eats everything and is now my full time travel companion (sorry mpx-k) totally worth the wait an the price. Only drawback to the B&T is the magazines are expensive. It arrived back in my grubby hands today. Quick View. Quick View. You are using an out of date browser. They fixed the accuracy issue. Probably. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. No range time to proof any of this yet. They developed the gun for the government. $10.40. Fit, finish, and design are fantastic (though for the consumer market I could have gone for M-LOK slots rather than LWRC's own attachment system). Now I have to fight her for it during couple shoots. Maybe they had a vote, maybe its something else but it is what it is. Keeping the ergonomic traits from the AR platform and 000 UPC: 850006403509 MPN: SMGPB45B8S Without a doubt the LWRC SMG 45 is the perfect weapon of choice for military, police and all shooters alike. I think that tiny micro (Think MP5K / Vector) PCCs have a place in home defense and personal protection. Store Price Shipping rate Show more; Out Of Stock. LWRCI SHORT RECOIL DELAYED BLOWBACK SYSTEM, LWRCI HIGH PERFORMANCE ALUMINUM AND STEEL CONSTRUCTION, LWRCI REVERSABLE NON-RECIPROCATING FOLDING CHARGING HANDLE, LWRCI 8.5 COLD HAMMER FORGED CHROMOLY STEEL BARREL, HARDCOAT ANODIZED NITRIDE NICKEL BORON SURFACE COATINGS THROUGHOUT, SHOOTS SUPPRESSED USING A BOOSTER/NEILSON DEVICE. Login for Special Pricing. New From LWRC: SMG-45 .45 ACP SBR and Pistol, NYT Reporter: LaPierre Unanimously Re-Elected, Its Official: LaPierre, All NRA Officers Unanimously Re-Elected Without Opposition, Meadows Elected President, Kiger Updates the 9c Compact With the New Kiger-9c Pro 9mm Pistol, Smith & Wesson Announces the New M&P FPC Pistol Caliber Carbine, Whats In Your Wallet? Might be worth looking into those items if you haven't already considered them. What are the hives' thoughts on this platform? I have a UMP clone built off an Omega Shadow upper that runs great. Runs great with octane 45 [deleted] 20 days ago They scored me one at a great price (why you should always support your local dealers). After firing almost 1000 rounds, all the mags loosened up. I sure hope they get it figured out and soon. Jeremy is TTAG's Deputy Editor, working mostly behind the scenes but, when he attempts to write, he focuses on comprehensive gun & gear reviews. Payment Options: *. My teacher buddy- well he also did that- So at this point, I do not know what Mr. It is longer than the existing spring but not quite as long as the V1 magazine spring and it's obviously not the same type of spring as the V1, its outward finish is the same as the Non-V1 Mag spring, NOT BLACK like the V1 Spring. After watching garand thumbs video Im on the fence . *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. If they designed it for 45 ACP then its probably built to handle every other popular pistol cartridge: 9mm, 10mm, 40S&W, 357 Sig, etc. 2.7kg. It's a tack driver, takes Glock mags, and cost 1/3 of what the LWRC cost. For that price you're retarded to buy that. Single-Part-7938 20 days ago I do as well. In the firearms industry often times you get what you pay for, and although the delayed blowback system is more expensive to produce, it keeps you on target and lengthens the firearms life due to lighter parts wear. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. Cant say enough good things about it. They are very hard to find however & most you do find are MSRP $2999 or much more on Gunbroker, ect. LWRC made a natural choice in chambering their first submachine gun/pistol in the classic .45 ACP cartridge. Most are using barrels longer than common handguns and would really take advantage of the hotter chamberings by getting that much more velocity. Fit, finish, and design are fantastic (though for the consumer market I could have gone for M-LOK slots rather than LWRCs own attachment system). 578-28 RH RIFLING: 1:16 RH | 6 Grooves Features: LWRCI SHORT RECOIL DELAYED BLOWBACK SYSTEM LWRCI HIGH PERFORMANCE ALUMINUM AND STEEL CONSTRUCTION LWRCI RAIL PANELS I am hoping they have some updates at Shot show. So, got a surprise shipping email from LWRC this past wednesday. Home protection? LWRCI's SMG 45 is built to the highest quality standards of any SUB-GUN on the market today. I dont blame them either, 45 ACP is still a popular cartridge, whether you like it or not, and with all these new SMGs there arent any in 45 other than the APC as I recall (unless you count the UMP 45 recreations). - with improvements , suppressor & optics ready, lightweight & compact with the SB brace. Brand new never fired LWRC SMGPB45B8S SMG .45 ACP 8.50" 25+1 Black Hard Coat Anodized SB Tactical Folding Subgun Brace Stock, with Holosun AEMS sight. For starters, the short recoil delayed blowback operating system provides the shooter a softer shooting weapon and fewer parts wear than cheaper PCC offerings. I hope they can get the price down to more realistic levels As far as the value, if it was in 9X19 Id agree with you, but its not. you will not feel that way with the controls of the SMG-45 if you're left handed. Paste as plain text instead, $23.75. That dude just needs more traffic and web hits to drive revenue. Personally, I like it, and personally, I want a 45 SMG, and in a new design. Quick View. Plus the extra range capability and velocity are pluses. You running it with a can? The whole recoil system on the Vector is an interesting design and the one I shot was pretty nice, though it was a 9mm. Im sure there are a lots of people who arent very mechanically inclined who could definitely screw this process up Im hoping something as simple as this Is part of the problem . Not a bad way to grow the community. The item you are trying to purchase is currently out of stock.Please enter your name, email, and phone number below. A++++ LWRCI. It shot a shotgun pattern group at close distances. Double check the back of the mags. It is an investment but great engineered product I expect to enjoy. Weight: 10.7 oz. Any updates yet? If you want to spend less than half for a legit 45 ACP AR upper, get a Macon Armory DI45. Reactions: Voyager1. They seem to attract a certain level of tomfuckery that other guns dont. $30.00. Using the factory V1 mags, I put through 25 rounds of Federal aluminum case and 25 rounds of 230 ball reloads. Still, video games get people into guns. ..Realistically, its no different from all the tools who grew up reading too much Soldier of Fortune in the 70s and 80s., strych9 says: Can't disagree more with the guy that said "If you know AR's, you'll know this". LWRL04-0056C01. I empty 4 of them every time I go to the range. It has V1 mags and I bought one USA 25rd and one 15rd USA from HKParts as the both HKParts and the LWRC user manual say that's the source for original magazines. Privacy Policy. My HK parts mags didn't have the V1 stamp. Every time i open this thread it makes me glad i didn't waste my money. Come join the discussion about other firearms, gun ownership, gun care, tactical firearms, small arms, optics, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! He said it could be the best pcc out there if it wasnt for the accuracy issues . Played with it a bit and realized the follower was "catching" and "chattering" instead of moving up smoothly. You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers. What if they just used a set pin instead of a grub screw (or whatever type screw theyre using). Advanced Trigger Guard Polymer. Natural and Human Disasters. smg-45 lwrc smg 45 pistol .45 acp low round count 50 rounds fired 8 inch " barrel pompano beach, fl 33076: used: 8/12/2022.45 acp lwrc smg-45 pistol + sb brace and eight mags! Anyone in here have one and experiencing the problem? Crown version of the LWRC SMG-45. Ambidextrous features: Selector switch Magazine release Bolt catch/release "LWRC's innovation applied to the subgun world - very . After reading the responses here, its going to be a no for me. Thumb is talking about. I have really wanted a .45 PCC for a while & I think the LWRC is the modern day Thompson. B&T GHM45 and APC45 are excellent options. Any use of this content without express written consent is prohibited. What a failure and waste of serious talent. LWRC. "Need" is a slope of slipperiness in dubious exercising. His reviews on BEnos are what steered me away from buying one. When I talked to them at SHOT Show, they were like, "Oh yeah, we're cranking them out as fast as we can. (Although my Barrett MRAD is definitely in the top-3. Maybe true on the out side, but NOT on the inside. You either have a bad disconnector, very loose trigger/hammer pins, a bad spring, or an incorrectly manufactured lower. Think: $3k = KAC SR15, FN SCAR, B&T APC, etc. Should I just move on? Im sure Im not alone. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Im a LWRC. But again. This has never been shot. Your friend will receive an email from you with a link to our site. Its the reason why HK early on, only developed 45 ACP suppressed with the Mark 23 SOCOM for Navy Seals and later USP for civilians. To be fair, Id bet you had the exact same level of bullshit with MP5s and other HK shit two decades ago when the Rainbow Six games were all the rage. I really wish it wasnt 3k . The highly anticipated SMG model is built on an AR platform with innovations and high performance features you expect from an LWRCI. Until .45 PCCs are more reasonable in price ill pass. The issues poping up are a bit worrisome but I'm sure LWRC will get it straightened out. I like it more each time I take it out. From hunters and military members, to competition shooters and general firearm enthusiasts, we welcome anyone who values and respects the way of the firearm. (gen 2) If so has the gun be reliable and accurate? If you know AR's - this will feel like an old friend. map. Switched the brace to a tailhook and swapped in a Geissele GRF single stage and it has been incredibly accurate with Winchester White box so far. Not prone like in the video. Figured a few others struggling with this problem might be interested in that update. But I wanted a short .45. Add To Cart. Developed for the needs of a government contract back in 2015, this submachine gun (SMG) as LWRC calls it only recently came available in a pistol version available for the general public. I picked one up a few weeks ago. MAP. Used it on a buy/walk tonight and it's the perfect size and weight for vehicle operations. Just about the coolest looking piece of shit ever made. pscipio03 Fun O' Meter on FULL Joined Mar 11, 2013 Horrible reviews. These versions all come with an 8.5 barrel, the SB Tactical SBTi folding subgun brace and two 25-round magazines (or less capacity depending on how much Freedom your location allows). Constructed using high performance aluminum and steel materials with premium hard coat anodized nitride nickel boron surface treatments throughout, the SMG .45 is built to last. Unfortunately I hear the UMP is a big step down in quality from the MP5.. . Id pick this over my UMP45, just because of the trigger. Your link has been automatically embedded. Ships with 2 25 round US- manufactured UMP magazines with Paddle Style mag release for easy load and mag changes. The most common delayed blowback is one implemented by H&K in MP-5 and G3. Um nope. I wrote Lwrc to see that they say about it . I LOVE LOVE LOVE this PCC. But I also saw a pic of one with a cracked bolt carrier (or whatever they call it). Money better spent on More AMMO. I like the ump mags instead of Glock mags for this. Everything from MP5 clones, to Kriss Wunderwaffen, to the bog standard Scorpion. Improved ammunition capacity. I found it odd that there was a quiet time between when he got it, had issues and then sold it. I shoot suppressed almost exclusively in order to save what little hearing I have left. Most people are cheap and stupidthats why that sell the sh/t out of Budweiser, Bud Light, and Michelob Ultra. I was told by the folks there at LWRC that it is a magazine problem for sure .they now ship all the guns with upgraded magazines. Pro's obvious quality, low recoil, super accurate, nice trigger, excellent fit and finish. Takes range time from my 1911's and other handguns with similar portability and much better accuracy at distance. It includes panels to aid in gripping a hot firearm following continuous strings of fire and a handstop to prevent the user from shooting their hands similar to other backpack guns like the new Daniel Defense DDM4 Personal Defense Weapon (PDW). The Hide Armory. I had been trying to get one for several months and finally just called LWRCI best idea I ever had because they were so great. gunbroker rgf7018 Burnt Bronze DI w/ Vortex Razer too much color? GunZoneDeals. Yeah I'm using the Neilson device that's standard on the AAC TiRant 45M. You get all the muzzle velocity increase youll practically see with LWRCs barrel length, a caliber begging for a can, and a half-inch thumper of a bullet out the end. Jun 30, 2022. A $3K toy that most people couldnt afford to keep fueled. Pistol forearm brace Magpul singlepoint sling Holosun HE510C-GR . It's such a great little package on 45. Absolutely love this sub-gun and couldn't be happier with the fit, finish, accuracy or reliability. The barrel and bolt travel rearwards together for a short distance before unlocking This is called a recoil operation, Jeremy. This System is just perfection LWRCI really went all out on the design and functionality. Only drawback to the B&T is the magazines are expensive. Its an outstanding round to suppress, and efficient to run in 6-12 barrels. The Vector is just the new hotness. It's a weird setting, but it's VERY important for accuracy. Not to mention how many people with SMG/PDW/pistols/whatever put cans on them? Retail is $2995. They did indicate it would be using 9mm UMP-pattern magazines as well. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. We will contact you as soon as this product is available. RangerTrace The SMG-45 uses an inertia-driven, delayed blow-back design. Way too many problems for the price for my liking. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. 9mm Luger guy here so it's a pass for me. LWRCI Enhanced Fire Control Group. My wife almost beat the fuck out of some skater idiot for pointing an EVO at her last time we were at a gun shop. someone above even mention this . Founded by Frank Galli in 2000, Snipers Hide has been offering informational videos, podcasts, and other support to its users in one location. My buddy bought one. LWRC SMG-45 By DK535, November 12, 2021 in Other Firearms & Non-NFA Reply to this topic Start new topic DK535 Forum Dabbler Members 3 14 posts Trader Feedback 0 0 0 Total Rating 0% Posted November 12, 2021 Does anyone know if the SMG-45 is legal to own in NJ?

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