Use only MAGNUM Rifle primers in .357 Maximum loads. Bottom line, if you get a Marlin lever gun that works and shoots good, and without a crossbolt safety, dont EVER sell it. The 40-70 Sharps straight can be formed from 405 Winchester cases. Or, take advantage of facory .350 Legend ammo. Shout, I mean shoots, doesnt rally shout, kind of barks. Rifle Brass; Rifles; Specialty Long Range; Sub-Caliber Products (.17, .14, .12, & .10 caliber) Cartridge Board Displays; Shotgun ; Firearms; Featured Item.14 Ackley . That stands for International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. Id bet the old timers that rode the wild and woolly west would have liked the magnum in a rifle. Nostalgia isnt relevance. It has always had a good trigger but now it has one of those Ive fired it about 50,000 times trigger jobs and is as smooth and sweet as any trigger Ive owned. But the tyrants have publicly said they hate repeating firearms. Im just fed up with the fact I spent over $1000 in gun and ammo to not be able to use it AND when it comes back from the shop it is dirty, not fixed, and has some cosmetic issues that werent there when I shipped it. No mention of primers was made, but I'd expect they used Large Pistol or Large Pistol Magnum, but you might have to e-mail them to find out. It is easy to load moderately for closer range shots and lighter recoil. Shop online for discount .357 Remington Max ammunition from top ammo brands like Remington, Federal, Winchester, Hornady, CCI, Speer, and many more. That keeps spent brass out of the eye of the user and today, allowing for easy mounting of a scope. Winchester 1892 Deluxe 357 Magnum Lever-Action Rifle with 24 Inch Octagon Barrel. Also, at higher velocities, the bullet is able to realize a flatter trajectory meaning longer shots are possible. Available with matte finish on steel frames and a highly polished finish on hardened brass frames, these elegantly simple rifles feature 22" round barrels, fully adjustable folding leaf rear sight and brass bead front sights we use on the lever actions, a drilled and tapped provision for optional scope use, walnut front and rear furniture, a Accepted Payment Methods: Returns: 3 Days 357 Remington Maximum Load Data This is not an issue for single-shot firearms, and the long bullet cleared the rifling in the pressure barrel and our T/C barrels. The big problem for me was the shape of the Contender grip which caused my hand to shake after just a few shots. Buy Savage 24V Series D 357 Rem Max / 20GA: GunBroker is the largest seller of Other Rifles Rifles Guns & Firearms All: 973628258. . My Name. Why does a levergun in .357 Magnum make more sense than one in .30-30 in those states? And some states (North Carolina) consider that a concealed weapon. Pistol caliber lever action rifles do make sense for benighted states, and are also still a lot of fun for the rest of us as well. You would be hard pressed to find an all around cartridge as good as the .357. The 30A is a Marlin 336 for 70% off.). The sights are just like the CSBL are an XS Sights ghost ring sight set. Ill just be here waiting on .357 lever guns to be relevant. But I take your point that a rifle can be usefuland fun. He cleaned that up. Nothing slimmer or quicker to get into action. IHMSA is still active but nowhere near as popular as it was back then. Thanks Muddy, 2506, hunter67, shooter7. Maybe some lighter .30-30 loads would be better, but .357 would be so good. Sounds like Remington/Marlin customer service and repair has gone straight to hell. I would absolutely use it for home D without a second thought. The late Bill Ruger got interested and set his people to work. I really want to get one in .357 mag. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. soft . Several years back I wanted a light weight all weather stainless steel single shot rifle chambered in 357 magnum, and the Rossi was the answer. https://www.rincolnia.com/images/Public/38SPL_SUPP.mp4. @ Ed Palumbo. Before the Remington, Freedom group takeover. Fully agree with this. Industry specs call out a 158-grain bullet at a velocity of 1,800 fps and a 180-grain bullet at 1,530 fps, both from a 10.5-inch vented test barrel. Because many states have recently enacted hunting laws that allow for straight-case centerfire cartridges, in addition to the previous shotgun slugs only. properly aligns and supports the shank of the bullet as it enters the rifling. OM56, cant disagree. .357 Remington Maximum is one potent game harvesting machine with more energy potential than factory .30/30 Winchester and .35 Remington, roughly equal to factory .300 Savage, and not far behind .308 Winchester energy levels, but with much less powder, less muzzle blast, and less recoil! May be possible to make a single shot but it would be costly. The cartridge made its debut in 1983 in the Ruger New Model Blackhawk single-action revolver. rounds and it goes on just about every trip to the range. No joke. I don't think it is possible due to OAL differences. Factory triggers dont come much, if any, better than the k frames., I have to agree. And has since been dropped by everyone except TC.. The .35 Remington case is basically a .308 Winchester (but slightly narrower and shorter) with a .358" diameter bullet stuffed into it. We do not charge additional fees for credit cards. I agree. In 357 max 24" Douglas premium barrel 1in16 twist shoots 180 pointed flat point over 4227 with CCI 450 primer .7 inches at 100 don't have to worry about resale I'll keep this one. It may not display this or other websites correctly. A Dan Wesson revolver in that caliber based on the heavy duty Dan Wesson 44 Mag frame was offered. I took photos and pointed out the issue but still didnt fix it. I have seen a gun blow up (not mine) and therefore I am very careful when I reload. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:33 pm, Post Seems to me thats just about the perfect lever-action carbine caliber. Problem is, because of the pandemic, and an election year, like all the ammo, there isnt any to be had, in the Pacific Northwest anyway. Some hunters have decided to have single-shot rifles rechambered for the cartridge because it's very easy to handle when fired from a rifle. Although some may not find this particular gun relevant, I think there are lots of pluses. I always assumed it was so you didnt lose your rifle when making a Sabre charge and hauling ass on your horse. My current 357 carbine is a Marlin 94 from 1998. by bgmkithaca Sat Jul 21, 2012 10:46 am, Post Forgot to add. 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HINT: Academy has Henry Steel Big Boys in stock today, July 29th, for $730. by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post Henry Big Boy All-Weather Rifle 10 RD 357 Magnum 38 Spl 10 . Lighter and tougher and more precise than ever, it's the perfect back country hunting rifle. And 9mm , 45 ACP, 40 S&W , 380 Auto and all the rest. Yeah, what ever it is you want has a magical mystical ability of always being someplace else. Thanks to everyone for beginning my education about lever guns! SIG Sauer P365 Pistol Now Offered in .380, Casting Your Own Bullets for Lever-Action Rifles, The Staying Power of the .257 Roberts Cartridge, 10mm Firepower: Springfield XD-M Elite 3.8 Compact Pistol Review, 5 Best Long-Range Hunting Bullets Available Right Now, A World Record Attempt: Practice Round and Media Day, Interview with Israeli Defense Forces, Part 1. Proof-fired it and it stood up. Poppycock; the .357 Magnum is one of the best rounds for personal defense out there. I enjoyed your article. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Bare essentials. That is fast. I have one, and they are very nice, but spendy, and very hard to come by. Many would consider it a good deer cartridge, but when used in a handgun, it would be rather marginal for that purpose. True dat. Khalil, Ive got one in .327 Fed Mag and Im here to tell you IT IS SWEET!! In a rifle, this cartridge is easy on the shoulder, making it a natural for new shooters. JM Browning did design a lot of the Winchester lever action rifles. Citadel Levtac-92 .357 Magnum Tactical-Lever! The .357 Max will out perform the .350 Legend except in one area - rimless. If you didn't know much about this caliber before, hopefully this article has given you some insight into why it is such a great cartridge. You can find handguns in the .357 Remington Maximum, but prices vary. Never again Marlin, shouldve bought another Henry. In an effort to keep the playing field dead level for all competitors, they rigidly adhered to the no-modification standard. Best to have at least one, in your favorite caliber, in the collection. My M19 was made in 1976. The furniture is high grade walnut, and the Deluxe Sporting model also features a 24-inch half octagon barrel and half rounded. And, re getting it looked at, yes; thing is, there arent too many smiths in my area who are comfortable working on lever-actions (and the ones that are, I dont trust). Please contact us with any questions, or for purchase options. Classified Ad (1000+), Search Full Text of Listings It shoots deadly accurate and has amazingly smooth trigger action. So if you want to shoot Max, Mag, and Specials; it is best to get a single shot. 6.5 Creedmoor vs. 6.5 PRC: Which is Better? We cover the 357 MaximumAll you need to know about the 357 Remington Maximum! Surprised no one has mentioned Smith and Wesson 627 Performance Center 8 shot in 357. The three taped holes were 20.0 gr. . If theyll go ahead and put the new loading gate on it (which I expect they will before long) I think Id probably move it straight to the top of the list. I think it helps ballistic uniformity in this long, skinny case and slow propellants. If you're gonna be stupid ya gotta be tough-. It was simply the .357 case lengthened to 1.60 and used the heavier bullets of 158 grains to as much as 200 grains. Since MSRP is only $1,069, its Winchesters entry-level lever gunbut its far from entry-level quality. Its a copy of the Winchester 1892 made by Miroku for Browning. His just naturally pointed well, I didnt have to work at all. by 44shooter Sun Jul 22, 2012 7:34 pm, Post The 1892 is a top-ejecting model so scopes or rails are out, but the point of this gun is to be a fast-handling, medium-range rifle. Lite recoil and is deadly. The fact is, .357 lever action rifles are proven game-getters, as they are well-suited to whitetail and hog hunting in thick timber at close(r) range, inside about 150 yards. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm, Post I admit that these articles about .357s have me thinking What the hell? I really do want a .357 levergunbut Im perfectly confident in my .30-30. Nice single shot rifle. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:17 pm, Post I know both of these are on the cheap side but the fun my kids and I have when we bring this to the range is priceless. She relegates me to my Win 94 trapper in 45 Long ColtI guess I get by. Then ordered a new 1894 with Ballard rifling, checkering, and sling studs for 350. Customer experience was, and still is, the primary focus, a key to the firms longevity and success. Rechambering to bottle neck cartridges with additional for handling and converting extractor for rimless cases, from $205. With a tuned lever action, you can unload 10 rounds in about 3 seconds: https://youtu.be/h1Wcy8HRQUo?list=TLPQMjcwNzIwMjC2VftOeStKpQ. It shoots factory PMC 158 gr soft points into a half inch at 50 yards. This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. You might find a few boxes at the Tulsa world gun show. Click the link to go to the Contact page: If you choose to remove the forend, contact me first so you don't lose parts removing the forend! Colt - Python, .357 Magnum. Zombie apocalypse? of rifles attached to horn or pommel and carried in a shuck of some sort. I bought a used Marlin 94c 357 in June, 2020 for $600, in 98% condition. I have one with the turnstile safety. I really cant eithersure was glad I had 8 30 round mags full of 62 gr 556 as BLM looters were approaching in May. You get the best of both the classic function of a lever gun with modern improvements. I would think the old school lever lovers and the black rifle guys could come together on this. Im glad I was able to get what I needed for the time being. Regardless of the manufacturer, most reloading books recommend you do not load bullets lighter than 158 grains. Own Stock. It loads long, with a cartridge overall length (COL) of 2.145 inches, well over the published max COL of 1.990 inches. Relevant to what? Either will give hunting accuracy better than a big percentage of "varmint rifles! . . Because of this, many hunters are realizing the potential of the cartridge for hunting medium to large game. by AJMD429 Sat Jul 21, 2012 6:57 pm, Post The Story of my life it seems. Low dollar lever gun joy is in your future. Mikey Hartman, Lt. Col. 357 max has one of the best resale records out there. There is a lot of muzzle flash with the Maximum. Most 158-grain and lighter bullets usually lack the jacket thickness for use on big game in a Contender. So when they become available, people on this blog will be talking about them. This produced a blue-white ring of fire at the gap where the bullet transitioned the jump from cylinder to the barrel. I Wont be waiting on you to be relevantjust sayin. Designed to increase the range and pattern density of your favorite turkey gun. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. Not all of us have the ability for various reasons to reload. All you have to do is search the net for, I survived a center-mass shot from a .357 magnum to see all the supporting evidence you need. by groschen1936 Tue Jul 24, 2012 9:49 pm, Post And a fun one! A 20 1892 weighs just over 6 lbs loaded. | Who knows what the future will bring and if the wife and I will one day move out of this state, but for now we have good jobs, good friends, a good church, no debt, and hope that the current angst against Newsom and the Left in general will bring about some degree of change in November. I doubt nothing that Taffin says, but we both know that no gun maker will ever live with that kind of visible damage.But let's step back and look at what the .357 Maximum was designed to do. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? In the many years since, however, Ive shot pretty much every common handgun caliber and own a dozen or so of them and, still, something about that .357 just works the best. by JerryB Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:00 pm, Post THE IDEAL TRAINING PLATFORM FOR KIDS. Note the 1/4" groups with .358" bullets in their .358" cylindrical throat and only slightly larger groups with .357" bullets, Copyright 2023 .357 Remington Maximum Done Right by Mike Bellm, Mr. Max USA, New Custom Made Barrels by Match Grade Machine. Thanks for reading! The chrony doesnt lie: .357 levers punch well above their weight: It was an 1895 GBL. Smooth as butter. Shop 357 Magnum ammo online for hunting, self defense, and target practice. The .357 Maximum was developed in the early 80's by Ruger and Remington Arms as a silhouette cartridge for the Blackhawk revolver. It is the perfect .357 Max rifle bullet. The werent lever actions. Which chamber to choose? Lots of these 'oddball' wildcats and so on can be found on, http://shootingwithhobie.blogspot.com/2 rguns.html, http://drcfirearmsoutdoors.businesscata tion-rifle, http://www.in.gov/dnr/fishwild/files/fw y_2012.pdf, It is currently Sat Mar 04, 2023 10:00 am. But it was attached to the saddle..which was (hopefully) attached to the horse. Despite the fact there is little commercial production for the .357 Remington maximum, the cartridge is well liked by hunters who understand the velocities, energy, and recoil it produces makes for a very efficient and manageable cartridge. (left) vs. .357 Magnum (Right). Actually prefer 30-30 to any handgun round. Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. Post Rimmed cases don't play well with stacked magazines like in the 700 Remington. I made a Magneto V3 adapter on the cheap, Dirt cheap UPS has officially stopped shipping guns. The .450 will really put a wallop on your shoulder. ", Go toMatch Grade Machine or call them at 435 628 0071. Expect this one to make a comeback, like the 10mm. The evidently know a 22 rifle or shotgun by sight. If you have to use a long-action gun to create a .357 Maximum, then the other easier way to get the .358" bullet going that fast, is just to use a .35 Remington chambered 'factory' levergun. rifle velocities, rifle bullets for the .35 Rem. Per ballistics charts, and generally speaking due to all the variables from different cartridge loads, a .357 Mag out of a carbine rifle barrel approaches the muzzle velocity and energy of a .44 Mag from a handgun. I have. No, the article actually shows period photos of guys wearing cross slings with clips on the end that attached to the rifle, so they could let it dangle by their legs. Federal has created a safer, easier and more reliable way to shoot a muzzleloader. You do want to make sure your rounds are flatnose, hollowpoint or LeverEvolution in a tube magazine. I'm chasing accuracy not top speed. This is a very efficient cartridge for hunters of medium game animals like deer and hogs. Larger game such as elk or black bear warrant a more substantial cartridge and hunting game on the open plains of the West requires more power and a flatter trajectory. This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. A few javelina even took up residence beneath a collapsed radar dish, they just tunneled under the edge and hid out all hunting season. The most common include: There are other firearms chambered in the maximum, but their availability is limited and prices can be high. I sure like my Marlin 94c..I had my Smith do an action and trigger job on it. I only have a little experience with .357 SIG (a friend has a Springfield XDM in said chambering) but it seems a reasonable round. All your beautiful $2,000 semi-auto rifles will be illegal, while excellent, used $500 Marlins will disappear from the market. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on November 23, 2019: I spoke to a gunsmith about rebarreling a Ruger #3 falling block (single shot) to .357 Maximum and he was appalled, commenting "You'll never be able to resell it! This is the same bullet we've used with great sucess in the .35 Rem loads. .44 Henry rimfire. The Carbine model features a 10-round tube and a 20-inch barrel. Mark Penrod is one. I still have a safe full of ARs, but thinking this Marlin is going to be seeing a lot more range time than they will. Optimum overall rifle performance is 2300 to 2400 fps with 180 gr. . The 357 out-paces the 44-40 and 32-20 by a fair margin. A bit heavy, if I had to buy it again, Id pick a shorter, lighter barrel version but I am not unhappy with the gun. Thank God for so many various powders available. lets say it was well used and not maintained. And .45-70 would be awesome, too. Barrel shoots Hornady 180 grain XTPs very well. One, intended as a super revolver cartridge, failed to make the grade in firearms with cylinders but is a fine performer in other platforms. 350 legend Oklahoma Shooters from www.okshooters.com. As most revolver . Hard to beat real world experience which is mainly what this site consists of. $2.92. Bullets manufactured by Hornady. Max., Those who own firearms in this chambering load their own custom ammunition. . New in the Box. $1,379.99. It too feeds with no problems but is more work to make. Maximum average pressure (MAP) was set at 40,000 psi/48,000 CUP, substantially higher than the .357 Magnum. The hammer and bolt still make contact with each other on the side of the hammer, not just where the bolt cocks the hammer. The one i have now has bllard rifling which is accurate with jacketed or lead bullets. by Tycer Thu Jul 19, 2012 8:36 pm, Post And of course, such a gun would have to have a longer frame for the longer cylinder for the longer cartridge. Once that word gets around, Henry and Brazilian made Rossi levers, and even Uberti and other Italian made Lever guns will gain more of the market share. From reloading to bullet selection, reloading powder choice and factory ammunit. Mine berms, or scrounge for scrap lead. This caliber in both the bottle neck and straight wall was a popular "high velocity" for it's day buffalo caliber. There have been discussions in the past about the comparison between the .357 Magnum and the .30 Carbine cartridges. The 357 Max is generally considered to be less powerful that 35 Rem, but I don't know if you would see a difference in a 14" barrel. If you can't locate a H&R/NEF in 357 mag a very decent alternative is a Braztech/Rossi made scaled down clone. There is an issue in how the hammer and bolt are aligned. Do the same during Deer Season, and all the critters have suddenly developed a deep phobia of open meadows you can see from far off. The Winchester Model 1873 is an iconic rifle commonly referred to as "The Gun That Won the West.". They averaged 1810fps out of my Marlin. Because the .357 Maximum in a Contender comes close to .35 Rem. Curious that this article features only the most expensive versions of .357 carbines. Well I did some research and got the ballistics for commercial .357 Magnum ammunition fired from a rifle. Theyre quick-handling (crazy quick), theyre accurate, and theyve got the power to take down medium-sized game out to 150 yards with the right ammo and careful rangefinding. by pwl44m Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:01 pm, Post New cartridge and rifle. 357 Maximum, 44 mag, and 45 colt. Why wouldnt you want a .357 Magnum lever action rifle? Remington manufactured this impressive cartridge, and still produces new brass for handloaders on occasion. Same 357 MAXIMUM 180 gr load in an 18" rifle barrel has a MP= 3111 psi vel 1663 FPS 357 Mag 158 gr 13 gr Win 296 1719 FPS 14" barrel MP= 2586 Should be Ev0-9 safe especially with a Triad Mount. The .357 Maximum was an effort to give you .357 Magnum muzzle velocity at 200 meters. I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading. It was almost daylight and I kept hearing something move around. Being a straight walled cartridge, its a snap. Ha! Copyright 2023 National Rifle Association, Women On Target Instructional Shooting Clinics, Volunteer At The Great American Outdoor Show, Marion P. 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This is well within the expansion range of the slightly larger XTP. Mine was made in about 2005, for what its worth. There was enough space there for a scabbard with a .30-30 in it. Gun Cleaning Equipment Bore Snakes Gun Cleaning Bore Guides Gun Cleaning Brushes . Perfect for those states with straight wall case limits and/or overall cartridge case length limits where in most cases the .45 cal. Features Sig Hard casing (2) Additonal 12 Round mag European American Armory, Windicator, Medium Frame, 357 Magnum, 4" Barrel, Steel Frame, Nickel Finish, Rubber Grips, Fixed Sights, 6Rd. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. I specialize in Thompson Center barrels but also rechamber CVA, H&R, and the new Henry single shots in .357 Magnum to .357 Maximum, .350 Legend, and a number of other .35 caliber cartridges such as .35 Remington and .358/.356 Winchester. To get started, click the link below to visit mymagnow.com and learn how to access your digital magazine. Perfect. T/Cs Contender pistol was also a natural for this cartridge, and it was a popular chambering. IMPORTANT NOTE: THROAT LENGTHS IN CUSTOM BARRELS VARY. While I do want one in .357 for ammo sharing with my handguns Id be open to one in .327 Federal as well. The .357 Rem. )(2009 Note: Some of these loads are from 1996 and in the passing years the powder companies have reduced their maximum loads particularly ones that have been around a long time like Unique. John said that he quietly kept on shooting his Rugers in the controversial caliber. Unless Marlin has COMPLETELY reformed their QC system, I would never spend $600 on one of their levers. of AA-1680 give top velocities and energies for shots upwards of 250 yards or more with 180 gr bullets from 24 barrels. Nicks and marks from use in wood and finish. NEVER JAM BULLETS INTO THE RIFLINGS! The Henry Big Boy Steel in .357 is about $700. You can shoot 357 Mags through it. $2.92. I passed up a .357 94 trapper several years ago it was a few $ more than I had on me and I couldnt get the seller to budge. Was a great gun.I wish someone should resurrect it. In the early 1980s, the hottest thing going for competitive handgunners was IHMSA. Whats different about the pre-lawyer ones? MGM's chamber is perfect for the vast majority of hunters and target shooters! MAXIMUM RIFLE | 325 | 122 | Lc | 125.0022ms, HARRINGTON & RICHARDSON 158 .357 MAXIMUM RIFLE. JavaScript is disabled. It brings old school to the new school and shoots like a dream. Own Stock. 2023 Outdoor Sportsman Group. Latest: Arima-bob A moment ago Southern California Fishing Reports B What boat less than 30ft can take a 3' @ 6-7 head sea Latest: Bottom Dragger 1 minute ago Boating Discussion Stripping old rods Latest: nefarious235 2 minutes ago Fishing Rod Building Forum We show you how. As far as commiespretty sure it would get the job done. The 92 is a round-barrel model, with the metal bits in blued steel and the furniture in black walnut. In the case of multiple buyers for one item, customers will be given 24 hours to complete a transaction, after which firearms will be made available to the next buyer.

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